"I’m not interested in trying to make depressing music for the sake of it. There’s a difference between depressing and real. You’re not necessarily depressed just because you don’t agree with the contrived happiness of tv culture. I was attracted to the dark side because I didn’t hear it on the radio. All I heard was false pop bullshit cult-of-the-winner crap and I reacted to that. But if I could come up with a joyous song like Smokey Robinson or Stevie Wonder, I’d be really happy."